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Birth26 Nov 1893, Bombay, India
Baptism18 Feb 1894, St Saviour, Ahmednager, India
Death31 Jul 1978, Forest oaks, The Rise, Brockenhurst,, Hants
General1st dau.
MotherFrances May West (ca1869-)
Notes for Beatrice Hamilton Hill
m. (1) HENRY KELSO UTTERSON, (2) DERMOTT L ALLEN
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Her baptism:

First name(s) Beatrice Hamilton
Last name Hill
Birth year 1893
Birth date 26 Nov 1893
Baptism year 1893
Baptism date 18 Feb 1894
Place Ahmednagar,St Saviour
Presidency Bombay
Father's first name(s) Claude Hamilton Archer
Father's last name Hill
Mother's first name(s) Frances May
Archive reference N-3-71
Folio 9
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948

She was baptised with her maternally orphaned cousin, Barbara Symons.
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CWGC records her as living at The Cottage, Northaw, Potters Bar after his death.
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No Uttersall births found with a Hill mother in India or England and Wales.

In 1930 she married Dermott L Allen in Kensington.
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In 1939 she, with an identical birth date to her baptism record, was in Wendover with a children’s nurse and a redacted child:

Torvel Colmbe Av lane , Aylesbury R.D., Buckinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS  SCHEDULE  SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

Beatrice H Allen 26 Nov 1893 Female Domestic Duties Unpaid  Married  249  1
Beatrice (Ann Beatrice) Grandley 17 Apr 1899 Female  Children Nurse  Single  249  3

This child may have been adopted.  But no entry found for an Allen birth in Bucks area.  Though there was a birth in the Watford area in 1937.
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Her will leaves her estate to her daughter Noreen Claude Silberrad, wife of Richard Michael Silberrad.

So I was able to use this gem to find his marriage which was to Noreen C Allen in 1956.

This then led to finding the birth of Noreen C Allen in 1933 with a mother of maiden name Hill in Marylebone.

Sounds like a Bingo!  (And Beatrice was a very credible 40 at the birth of her daughter.
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Her death index:

First name(s) BEATRICE HAMILTON
Last name ALLEN
Birth day 26
Birth month 11
Birth year 1893
Death quarter 3
Death year 1978
District NEW FOREST
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 0253
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
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Will notes for Beatrice Hamilton Hill
Her probate index:

Allen, Beatrice Hamilton of Forest oaks The Rise Brockenhurst Hants died 31 July 1978  Probate Winchester 29 September  Â£12527  783313737N
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I ordered the will, dated 12th May 1972, to see the names of the beneficiaries and the sole heir was her daughter Noreen Claude.  Remainder to her unnamed children when 21.

The executors were appointer by her as her son-in-law Col Richard Michael Silberrad of 14 Curridge Piece, Curridge, Newbury, Berks and (presumably a relation to the Col) John Holland Willigis Stilberrad of Dryad’s Hall Loughton Essex.  In fact only the latter swore to be the adminsitrator.
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Notes for Henry Kelso & Beatrice Hamilton (Family)
Their marriage transcription:

First name(s) Beatrice Hamilton
Last name Hill
Marriage year 1916
Marriage date 14 Feb 1916
Spouse's first name Henry Kelso
Spouse's last name Utterson
Place Delhi
Presidency Bengal
Groom's father's first name Archibald Hammond
Groom's father's last name Utterson
Bride's father's first name Claude Hamilton Archer
Bride's father's last name Hill
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-411
Folio number 2
Record set British India Office marriages

On the scan of the register copy entry, the church was named as St James and the witnesses inlcuded both of Beatrice’s parents.
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Notes for Dermott L & Beatrice Hamilton (Family)
Their marriage index:

First name(s) BEATRICE H
Last name UTTERSON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1930
MarriageFinderâ„¢ BEATRICE H UTTERSON married
DERMOTT L ALLEN
Spouse's last name ALLEN
District KENSINGTON
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 270
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
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Last Modified 21 Feb 2017Created 14 May 2022 by Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re-created by Tim Powys-Lybbe on 14 May 20220