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Birthca 1400
Death4 Feb 1461, Beheaded in Hereford after battle of Mortimer's Cross
GeneralLancastrian supporter.
Notes for Sir Owen Tudor
He also had a natural son David Owen who m. (1) Mary Bohun and (2) Anne Blount.  See Sussex Visitation of 1530-1634 for Owen, pp. 94 & 122.

The new ODNB has an article on his forbears: “Tudor family, forbears of”.  Here’s the bare facts of this line:

Cynwrig ap Iowerth ap Gwrgant
(of the cantred of Rhos in north-east Wales)
Ednyfed Fychan (='little') (d. c. 1246)
m. (1) NN ferch Llywarch ap Bran, (2) Gwenlian of Deheubarth (d. 1236)
(Samuel Meyrick in his edition of Lewys Dwnn's Visitation of Wales,
 includes in his introduction a pedigree of H VII which asserts that
 Gwenlian was the mother of Goronwy and that her father was Rhys,
 prince of South Wales)
|                |         |         |         |
Tudyr         Gruffyd   Goronwy   Iorwerth   Hywel
(d.1278)     (d.c.1256) (d.1268)   leper?    bishop of St Asaph
|                   |        |____________   1240-1247
|___________        |_______________      |
|           |        |              |     |_______________________
Gwilym    Robin     Rhys          Hywel            |      |       |
ancestor  ancestor  (d.1284)      (d.1282)       Tudor  Hywel   Goronwy
of        of           m. Margaret  m. Joan        Hen          Fychan
Penrhyns  Cochwillans  Lestrange    Somerville  (d.1311)
of Caer-  of Caer-     |            |              |
narvons   narvons      |            |               |
                       |            |              |
                Sir Gruffudd      Gruffudd      Goronwy
                    LLwyd         (d.1308)      (d.1331)
                    (d.1335)        |               |
               ________|      ______|______        _|_____________
              |              |             |      |        |      |
           issue:        Sir Rhys        Robert  Hywel  Tudur  Gruffydd
        prob dspss      (d.17 May 1356)    |    cleric  (d.c.   (d.c.
                        heir to            |    (d.c.   1367     1344)
                     Gruffudd  Llwyd       |    1366     |
       _____________________|         _____|             |
      |             |                |                   |
   Sir Rhys yngr  Henry            Rhys                  |
    (d. 1380)                    (d. 1377)               |
              |             |          |       |            |
          Goronwy       Ednyfed    Gwilym     Rhys       Maredudd
          (d.1382)      (d.c.      (d.aft.  (d.1411)     (d.c.1404)
           |             1382)      1401)  (executed)       |
  _________|_                                               |
 |           |                                              |
Tudur    Morfydd                                       Owen Tudor
(d. by   m. Gwilym                                     m. Katherine
 1400)   ap Griffudd                                   of Valois.
         of Penrhyn                                    Grandfather
                                                       of Henry VII
Arms Generally notes for Sir Owen Tudor
From Dictionary of British Arms, vol 2, p. 355:

Gules chevron between 3 helmets Argent.
DNB Main notes for Sir Owen Tudor
Tudor, Owen d. 1461

Name: Tudor, Owen
Dates: d. 1461
Active Date: 1441
Gender: Male

Place of
h: The market-place of Hereford
    Burial: Hereford,   The market cross,   Church of the Grey Friars at Hereford
Sources: Williams's Penmynedd and the Tudors in Archæologia Cambrensis...
Contributor: W. A. J. A. [William Arthur Jobson Archbold]

Tudor, Owen d. 1461, grandfather of Henry VII, belonged to a Welsh family of great antiquity (cf. especially the appendix to Wynne's edition of Powell's History of Wales, 1697, where Henry VII's descent is recorded). Its connection with Cadwaladr (d. 1172) [q.v.] is shadowy, but his pedigree is traced from Ednyfed Fychan, who was descended probably from Maredudd ap Cynan, and was a considerable personage at the court of Llewelyn ap Iorwerth (Williams's ‘Penmynydd and the Tudors’ in Archæologia Cambrensis, 3rd ser. xv. 282). Ednyfed lived chiefly at Tregarnedd in Anglesey, and from his second wife, Gwenllian, daughter of Rhys, prince of South Wales, were descended the Tudors. His son Gronw was, by his wife Morfydd, the father of Tudor, afterwards called Tudor Hên. Tudor Hên lived in the days of Edward I, and refounded about 1299 the Dominican friary at Bangor (Dugdale, Monasticon, vi. 1500; cf. Palmer, in the Reliquary, xxiv. 226). The Tudors were latterly supposed to have been rich, and they took no part in the Welsh rebellion in Edward I's reign.
Tudor Hên's grandson, Tudor Vychan ap Gronw (d. 1367?), is the subject of various traditions. He is said to have assumed knighthood, and then to have received it at the hands of Edward III. He is described as of Trecastell, one of his manors. He left a family by a wife Margaret, daughter of Thomas ap Llewelyn ap Owen, and of these Gronw Fychan (d. 1382), the forester of Snowdon, who was drowned, was the favourite of the Black Prince, and after his death was appointed (probably in reversion) in 1381 constable of Beaumaris Castle, with a salary of forty marks. By his wife Mevanwy he was the father of a son Tudor whose descendants formed a branch of the family which lasted some hundreds of years. Other sons of Sir Tudor Vychan ap Gronw were Rhys and William ap Tudor, who were captains of archers in the service of Richard II.
The fourth son, Meredydd, father of the subject of this article, was escheator of Anglesey in 1392, and held some office under the bishop of Bangor, that of scutifer, or butler, or steward. His wife was Margaret, daughter of Dafydd Fychan ap Dafydd Llwyd. It has been said that Meredydd killed a man, was outlawed, and fled to Snowdon with his wife, and that there Owen Tudor was born; but it seems more likely that Meredydd fled alone, and that Owen was born about the beginning of the fifteenth century in his absence. Meredydd was cousin through his mother to Owen Glendower, whom the Tudors seem to have actively supported (cf. Wylie, Henry IV, esp. i. 215-16, ii. 15). Glendower's son entered the service of Henry V, and doubtless it was in this way that Owen Tudor came to the court. It is said that he was present as one of the Welsh band at Agincourt, and distinguished himself so much that he was rewarded by being made one of the esquires of the body to the king; but he seems to have been rather young for such a post at the time. He certainly stayed about the court, and early in the reign of Henry VI he attracted the notice of Catherine, widow of Henry V [see Catherine of Valois], who appointed him clerk of her wardrobe. Tudor and the widowed queen soon lived together as man and wife. If Sir James Ramsay is right, she had wished to marry Edmund Beaufort, but was prevented by Gloucester for personal reasons. At what time exactly the union with Owen Tudor took place, and whether it was a legal marriage, it is difficult to determine. The act which was passed in 1427-8 making it a serious offence to marry a queen-dowager without the consent of the king is evidence that nothing was then known of the matter, at all events publicly; while, as Mr. Williams points out, the birth of the children can hardly have been concealed. It may be assumed, then, that the union took place about 1429.
In 1436, perhaps through Gloucester's influence, Tudor's children were taken from the queen, and she was confined in, or voluntarily retired to, Bermondsey Abbey. At the same date Owen Tudor was confined in Newgate, whence he escaped by the aid of his priest and servant. On the death of Catherine in Bermondsey Abbey on 3 Jan. 1436-7, Henry VI ‘desired and willed that on Oweyn Tidr the which dwelled wt the said Quene should come to his presence.’ He was at Daventry in Warwickshire at the time, and refused to come without a written safe-conduct, and when he did get within reach he judged it prudent to take sanctuary at Westminster. There he remained some time in spite of efforts to entrap him by getting him to disport himself in a tavern at Westminster Gate. At last he came before the council and defended his cause. He was allowed to go back to Wales, and then, in violation of the safe-conduct, he was brought back again by Lord Beaumont and given in charge to the Earl of Suffolk at Wallingford; later he was moved to Newgate. He, his priest, and his servant, however, managed to get free once more, and Owen Tudor retired to North Wales. The persecution of Owen Tudor was in no way due to Henry VI's personal action, and when he came of age he allowed Owen Tudor an annuity, and was very kind to his sons.
Owen Tudor proved a faithful Lancastrian. Just before the battle of Northampton (10 July 1460) Henry made him keeper of the parks at Denbigh. He was taken prisoner at the battle of Mortimer's Cross (4 Feb. 1460-1), and by the order of young Edward he was beheaded in the market-place of Hereford. His head was put on the market cross, and a woman, whom a contemporary calls mad, had the hair combed and the face washed, and set round many lighted candles. His body was buried in a chapel of the church of the Grey Friars at Hereford.
By Queen Catherine, Owen Tudor had three sons, of whom Edmund and Jasper are separately noticed; and a third became a monk at Westminster. Tudor also left two daughters by Queen Catherine, of whom one became a nun, and the other, Jacina, is said to have married Reginald, lord Grey de Wilton. A natural son of Owen, called Dafydd, is said to have been knighted by Henry VII, who gave him in marriage Mary, daughter and heiress of John Bohun of Midhurst in Sussex.

Williams's Penmynedd and the Tudors in Archæologia Cambrensis, 1st ser. iv. 267, 3rd ser. xv. 278, 379; Sandford's Gen. Hist. pp. 278, &c.; Strickland's Queens of England, Katherine of Valois in vol. i.; Ramsay's Lancaster and York, i. 496, ii. 243, 269; Polydore Vergil's Hist. Angl. pp. 487-8; Bernard Andreas in Memorials of Henry VII (Rolls Ser.), pp. 9-10; Ordinances of the Privy Council, ed. Nicolas, v. pp. xvi-xix, 47, 48, 49; Coll. of Lond. Cit. (Camd. Soc.), p. 211; Dwnn's Heraldic Visitations of Wales, esp. ii. 108; Cambrian Register, i. 149; Brit. Mus. Egerton MS. 2587, f. 13 b; Pennant's Tours, ed. Rhys, iii. 44 sqq.

Contributor: W. A. J. A.

published  1898
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