Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameRev Edward Victor Robert Powys 
[4, 1841 ref: HO107, piece 803, book 10, folio 5, p. 5], [4, 1861 ref: RG09, piece 961, folio 29, page 15], [4, 1881 at lodgings in Marylebone, London], [46, 3rd edition, his burial aged 91 at Lilford], [62, Lilford, p. 1707], [36]
[4, 1841 ref: HO107, piece 803, book 10, folio 5, p. 5], [4, 1861 ref: RG09, piece 961, folio 29, page 15], [4, 1881 at lodgings in Marylebone, London], [46, 3rd edition, his burial aged 91 at Lilford], [62, Lilford, p. 1707], [36]Birth11 Feb 1839, 10 Grosvenor Place, London
Baptism7 Aug 1839, St George Hanover Sq parish church, Middlesex
Death16 Feb 1930, 10 Rutland Court, Knightsbridge, Middlesex
Burial20 Feb 1930, St Peter’s, Lilford cum Wigsthorpe, Northants
GeneralVicar of St Nicholas, Warwick.
EducationCantab: Ll B.
FatherThomas Atherton Powys Lord Lilford (1801-1861)
MotherMary Elizabeth Fox (1806-1891)
Spouses
Marriage8 Jun 1865, St George, Hanover Sq district, London [3, Their marr., Q2 of 1865, St Geo Han Sq dist, vol 1a, p. 525]
ChildrenMervyn Owen Wayne (1866-1942)
Helen Constance (ca1867-1867)
George Percy Wayne (ca1868-1868)
Edward William Wayne (1870-1940)
Notes for Rev Edward Victor Robert Powys
He and his wife had two children who lived to old age but no grandchildren.
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No birth record on FreeBMD.
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Feb 2022, TFPL: Baptism image of the parish register, thanks Ancestry, with transcript by me:
“ Fol.275
“ Baptisms Solemnized
“ In the Parish of ST GEORGE, Hanover SQUARE, in the COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX in the Year 1839, August
“. . . .
“When Baptized: 7 August 1939
“No: 676
“Child’s Forename: Edward Victor Robert [ his surname: Powys ]
“Parents’ Forenames: Thomas Atherton & Mary Elizabeth
“Parents’ Surname: Lilford
“Abode: Grosvenor Place
“When Born: 11 Feb 1839
“Profession: Peer
“Celebrant: W.H. Dickinson
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In 1861 he was in Kensington with his mother and siblings, aged 21.
1871 census: he was a widower, vicar of St Nicholas, Warwick and living with his wife, their two sons and his sister. This was not quite true. On the enumerator’s sheet he clearly said he was a widow and his wife was not there. But the transcrjption had not bothered to fill in the ‘Condition column’. His sister Mary E.F. Powys was with him, presumably trying to help out with a difficult situation:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward V R Powys Head W M 32 1839 Vicar of St Nicholas Warwick London, 10 Grosvenor Place
Mervyn O W Powys Son - M 5 1866 - London, 33 Gt Cumberland Place
Edward W W Powys Son - M 0 1871 - Warwickshire, Edmoncoats(?)
Mary E F Powys Sstr U F 29 1842 - London, 10 Grosvenor Pl
Gwenllian M Dunn Vstr U F 25 1846 - Carmarthenshire, Caesmarten
Ellen Hudson Serv U F 34 1837 Nurse Oxfordshire, Calcott
Anne Ward Serv U F 24 1847 - Warwickshire, Barford
Harriet Mears Serv U F 26 1845 - Norfolk, Thaxston
Mary Hazel Serv U F 20 1851 - Warwickshire, Westwood Heath
Joseph Bodger Serv U F 22 1849 - Norfolk. Leddington
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1881 census: A lodger in Bryanston St, Marylebone as Clergyman without cure of souls. I get the feeling that he had had a breakdown and perhaps abandoned his children.
In 1891 he was a widower in Woburn with a visitor and four servants and no sons at home. He appears not to have had a living then.
In 1911 he was in London with a staff of two, a housekeeper and a valet.
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From the Northants FHS booklet of Mon Inscriptions for St John the Baptist, Thorpe Achurch, pub 2015:
He was listed as rector of Thorp Achurch from 1873 to 1877.
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Their children, from the GRO online index:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
POWYS, MERVYN OWEN WAYNE WAYNE
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 516
POWYS, HELEN CONSTANCE WAYNE
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in UPTON UPON SEVERN Volume 06C Page 321
POWYS, EDWARD WILLIAM WAYNE WAYNE
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 510
Burke in BP gives a fourth child: George Percy Wayne; b 10 Nov, d 31 Dec 1868 but no sign of any birth registration can be found, not even an unnamed registration. Though his death was registered:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
POWYS, GEORGE PERCY WAYNE 0
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 407
If he died on the 31st, it is remarkable that this was registered on the same day in MaryLeBone.
Helen’s death was:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
POWYS, HELEN CONSTANCE 0
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in UPTON UPON SEVERN Volume 06C Page 156
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His burial:
First name(s): Edward Victor Robert
Last name: POWYS
Date of burial: 20 Feb 1930
Age at death: 91
Calculated year of birth: 1839
Place of burial: Lilford cum Wigsthorpe
Dedication: St Peter
County: Northamptonshire
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In the Times of 15th April 1930, points from his will were summarised:
He dies on 16 Feb 1930, aged 91.
Estate net was £28,041.
His sons Mervyn Owen Wayne and Edward William Wayne, both Powys.
That if his sons were Roman Catholics, their legacies should not take effect.
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No birth record on FreeBMD.
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Feb 2022, TFPL: Baptism image of the parish register, thanks Ancestry, with transcript by me:
“ Fol.275
“ Baptisms Solemnized
“ In the Parish of ST GEORGE, Hanover SQUARE, in the COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX in the Year 1839, August
“. . . .
“When Baptized: 7 August 1939
“No: 676
“Child’s Forename: Edward Victor Robert [ his surname: Powys ]
“Parents’ Forenames: Thomas Atherton & Mary Elizabeth
“Parents’ Surname: Lilford
“Abode: Grosvenor Place
“When Born: 11 Feb 1839
“Profession: Peer
“Celebrant: W.H. Dickinson
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In 1861 he was in Kensington with his mother and siblings, aged 21.
1871 census: he was a widower, vicar of St Nicholas, Warwick and living with his wife, their two sons and his sister. This was not quite true. On the enumerator’s sheet he clearly said he was a widow and his wife was not there. But the transcrjption had not bothered to fill in the ‘Condition column’. His sister Mary E.F. Powys was with him, presumably trying to help out with a difficult situation:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward V R Powys Head W M 32 1839 Vicar of St Nicholas Warwick London, 10 Grosvenor Place
Mervyn O W Powys Son - M 5 1866 - London, 33 Gt Cumberland Place
Edward W W Powys Son - M 0 1871 - Warwickshire, Edmoncoats(?)
Mary E F Powys Sstr U F 29 1842 - London, 10 Grosvenor Pl
Gwenllian M Dunn Vstr U F 25 1846 - Carmarthenshire, Caesmarten
Ellen Hudson Serv U F 34 1837 Nurse Oxfordshire, Calcott
Anne Ward Serv U F 24 1847 - Warwickshire, Barford
Harriet Mears Serv U F 26 1845 - Norfolk, Thaxston
Mary Hazel Serv U F 20 1851 - Warwickshire, Westwood Heath
Joseph Bodger Serv U F 22 1849 - Norfolk. Leddington
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1881 census: A lodger in Bryanston St, Marylebone as Clergyman without cure of souls. I get the feeling that he had had a breakdown and perhaps abandoned his children.
In 1891 he was a widower in Woburn with a visitor and four servants and no sons at home. He appears not to have had a living then.
In 1911 he was in London with a staff of two, a housekeeper and a valet.
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From the Northants FHS booklet of Mon Inscriptions for St John the Baptist, Thorpe Achurch, pub 2015:
He was listed as rector of Thorp Achurch from 1873 to 1877.
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Their children, from the GRO online index:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
POWYS, MERVYN OWEN WAYNE WAYNE
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 516
POWYS, HELEN CONSTANCE WAYNE
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in UPTON UPON SEVERN Volume 06C Page 321
POWYS, EDWARD WILLIAM WAYNE WAYNE
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 510
Burke in BP gives a fourth child: George Percy Wayne; b 10 Nov, d 31 Dec 1868 but no sign of any birth registration can be found, not even an unnamed registration. Though his death was registered:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
POWYS, GEORGE PERCY WAYNE 0
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 407
If he died on the 31st, it is remarkable that this was registered on the same day in MaryLeBone.
Helen’s death was:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
POWYS, HELEN CONSTANCE 0
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in UPTON UPON SEVERN Volume 06C Page 156
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His burial:
First name(s): Edward Victor Robert
Last name: POWYS
Date of burial: 20 Feb 1930
Age at death: 91
Calculated year of birth: 1839
Place of burial: Lilford cum Wigsthorpe
Dedication: St Peter
County: Northamptonshire
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In the Times of 15th April 1930, points from his will were summarised:
He dies on 16 Feb 1930, aged 91.
Estate net was £28,041.
His sons Mervyn Owen Wayne and Edward William Wayne, both Powys.
That if his sons were Roman Catholics, their legacies should not take effect.
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Will notes for Rev Edward Victor Robert Powys
His probate index on FindMyPast (not available on the gov.uk site):
1930
POWYS the honourable reverend Edward Victor Robert of 10 Rutland Court Knightsbridge Middlesex clerk died 16 February 1930 Probate London 9 April to Mervyn Owen Wayne Powys and Edward William Wayne Powys esquires.
Effects £32627 1s. 9d.
This has been ordered in the hops that some sense about his son Edward emerges.
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1930
POWYS the honourable reverend Edward Victor Robert of 10 Rutland Court Knightsbridge Middlesex clerk died 16 February 1930 Probate London 9 April to Mervyn Owen Wayne Powys and Edward William Wayne Powys esquires.
Effects £32627 1s. 9d.
This has been ordered in the hops that some sense about his son Edward emerges.
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