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Birth28 Nov 1805, V.prob. Lilford Hall, Northants
Baptism3 Jan 1806, Lilford cum Wigsthorp church, Northants
Death31 May 1877, Bewsey House, Bournemouth, Hants
General3rd s. Bishop of Sodor & Man.
FatherThomas Powys Lord Lilford (1775-1825)
Notes for Rt Rev Horatio Powys Bishop of Sodor and Man
His baptism,  as abstracted by FindMyPast:

First name(s)      Horatio
Last name          Powys
Baptism year       1806
Baptism date       03 Jan 1806
Relationship       Son of thos lord lilford & henrietta maria
Place              Thorpe Achurch, St James the Baptist
Description        St James the Baptist
Denomination       Anglican
County             Northamptonshire
Country            England
Notes              Died at Bewsey House Bournemouth 31 May 1879 [ sic: it was 1877! ]
Archive            Northamptonshire Archives
Archive reference  320p/2
Record set         Northamptonshire Baptisms
Category           Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory        Parish Baptisms
Collections from   England, Great Britain

The actual Lilford cum Wigsthorpe baptism register reads as follows:

“1806
Horatio, son of Thos Lord Lilford & Henrietta Maria his Wife, baptd. Janry. 3rd”

and below on the same page is added:

“Horatio Powys third son of Thomas 2nd Lord Lilford & his wife Henrietta Maria, was consecrated Bishop of Sodor & Man in 1854 & died at Bewsey House Bournemouth 31 May 1877.  [initialled] S.V.R.P.]”
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In the LDS Vital records he is written "Horace" as the father for all his children, save for his son Horace when he is down as Horatio.
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TFPL, Sep 2004, from ancestry.com:

Name:          Powys, Horatio
Record Type:   Deaths
Age at death:  72
Quarter:       June
Year:          1877
District:      Christchurch (1837-1919)  
County:        Hampshire
Volume:        2b
Page:          379 (click to see others on page)
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His death index from the online GRO:

Name:                 Age at Death (in years):  
POWYS, HORACE         72  
GRO Reference: 1877  J Quarter in CHRISTCHURCH, HANTS  Volume 02B  Page 379
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Russell Powis reports that he found on IGI "a baptism for a Henrietta Marie Powys on 15 June 1834, died 19 March 1845, daughter of Horatio and Percy Gore".  Sounds like the eldest child.  The birth of an unnamed daughter is reported in the 1834 Annual Register, p. 187, on 15th of June at Wandsworth, confirming this.
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From the London Gazette:

7 Jul 1854: “Whitehall, July 5, 1854.   The Queen has been pleased to direct letters
patent to be passed under the Great Seal, nominating, presenting, and appointing the Honourable and Reverend Horatio Powys, M.A., to the Bishoprick of the Isle of Man and Sodor, void by the translation of the Right Reverend Father in God, Robert John, Lord Auckland, to the see of Bath and Wells.”

1 Aug 1854: “Whitehall, July 31, 1854.   The Queen has been pleased to present the
Reverend William Quekett, M.A., to the Rectory of Warrington, in the county palatine of Lancaster, and diocese of Chester, void by the promotion of the Honourable and Reverend Horatio Powys, D.D., to the Bishoprick of Sodor and Man.”

17 Jul 1877: “Whitehall, July 17, 1877.
The Queen has been pleased to direct Letters Patent to be passed under the Great Seal nominating, presenting, and appointing the Reverend Rowley Hill, M.A., to the Bishoprick of the Isle of Man and Sodor, void by the death of the Honourable Horatio Powys, D.D., late- Bishop thereof.”
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A search for the baptisms of children surnamed Powys and father’s forename of Hora* and mother’s of Percy from 1833 to 1853 gave this list initially from FindMyPast:

Bapt                                 Previous     Ancestry        BT/
Year  Forename(s)       Location:      info     Img  Bapt date    Reg  Birth

1834  Henrietta Marie   Warrington    Omitted    Y   25 Aug 1834  BT   -
1836  Horace            Warrington    b.1835     Y   18 Jun 1836  BT   22 Dec 1835
1837  Gore              Warrington    no date    Y    3 May 1837  BT   -
1838  Percy William     Warrington    1838       Y   12 Jul 1838  BT   -
1839  Henry Lyttleton   Warrington    1839       Y   29 Jul 1839  BT   -
1840  Mary Georgiana    Warrington    1840       Y   29 Jul 1840  BT   -
1843  Sophia Vernon     Warrington    1838       Y   14 Jun 1843  BT   -
1845  Percy Maria       Warrington    1845       Y    2 Nov 1845  BT   -
1847  Ann Gertrude      Warrington    1847       Y    5 Sep 1847  BT   -
1849  Laura Harriet     Warrington    1847       Y   29 Apr 1849  BT   -

A total of 10 baptisms were found.  This compares with the nine I had found from an undisciplined approach and the three that are shown in the Lilford article in the 2002 Burke’s Peerage and the eight that appear in the 1914 Peerage, and then the full ten who were listed in Oswald Barron’s genealogy volume of the Northants VCH, published in 1909.

All of these ten now have images of their baptisms found on Ancestry.

Curiously two of the images, for Mary Georgiana and Percy Maria, were not in Ancestry’s index, but by paging through the baptism images, they were indeed found.

All the births were in Warrington, which the family did not leave until 1854 when Horatio was appointed to the Man see, five years after the last birth which was when their mother was 45.
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In 1951 the family were all named by FindMYPast as ‘Porris’ and there were a few other misunderstandings of the difficult writing which I have corrected both here and with FindMyPast. They were at the Rectory, Church Street, Warrington, Lancashire:

                                Marital
First name(s)  Last name  Role  status  Sex  Age  Birth year  Occupation  Birth place
H
orace      Powys     Head  M  M  45  1806  Rector of warrington  Lilford, Northants
Percy Gore  Powys     Wife  M  F  44  1807  Wife                  Horsley, Surrey
Mary G      Powys     Daur  -  F  10  1841  Scholar               Warrington, Lancs
Sophia      Powys     Daur  -  F   7  1844  Scholar               Warrington, Lancs
Percy M     Powys     Daur  -  F   5  1846  Scholar               Wimbledon, Surrey
Gertrude    Powys     Daur  -  F   3  1848  -                     Warrington, Lancs
Laura H     Powys     Daur  -  F   2  1849  -                     Warrington, Lancs
Georgiana   Currie    Niec  U  F  20  1831  Visitor               Hampstead, Middlesex
Sarah A     Ratety    Gnss  U  F  18  1833  Governess             Stockport, Cheshire
Joan        Mugford   Serv  -  F  49  1802  House keeper          Whitley, Surrey
Hannah      Gibson    Nrse  U  F  49  1802  Servant               Hambleton, Surrey
Mary        Barlow    Serv  U  F  33  1818  -                     Warrington, Lancs
Sarah       Brindle   Serv  U  F  25  1826  Housemaid             Wigan, Lancs
Lydia       Laurence  Serv  U  F  20  1831  Cork                  London, Middlesex
Frances     Gerrad    Serv  U  F  16  1835  Nursing maid          Warrington, Lancs
Martha      Holmes    Serv  U  F  17  1834  Kitchen maid          Warrington, Lancs
Thomas      Bunting   Serv  U  M  30  1821  Foot man              Derbyshire, Mattock

Ref:
Archive reference  HO107
Piece number       2203
Folio              292
Page               38
Combined:          1851 ref: HO107, piece 2203, folio 292, p. 38
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In 1861 he and Percy had five daughters with them and Horace was given the surname of Mare instead of ’Sodor & Man’ that was clearly written down; they were at Bishops Palace, Rhen Cullin, Michael, Isle of Man:

                                Marital
First name(s)  Last name  Role  status  Sex  Age  Birth year  Occupation  Birth place
Horace         Sodor & Man  Head  M  M  55  1806  Bishop of Sodor & Man  England
Percy Gore     Powys        Wife  M  F  55  1806  -                      England
Mary G         Powys        Daur  U  F  20  1841  -                      England
Sophy V        Powys        Daur  U  F  18  1843  -                      England
Percy M        Powys        Daur  -  F  15  1846  Scholar                England
Gertrude A     Powys        Daur  -  F  13  1848  Scholar                England
Jane H         Powys        Daur  -  F  12  1849  Scholar                England
Georgina Gore  Curry        Nce   U  F  30  1831  Annuitant              England
Lucinda        Barter       Gnss  U  F  24  1837  Governess              England
Amelia C       Le Boy       Vstr  -  F   9  1852  Scholar                France
Ann R          Murray       Serv  U  F  22  1839  Ladys maid             England
Ann            Lalor        Tchr  U  F  22  1839  School mistress        Ireland
Jessie         Livingstone  Serv  U  F  26  1835  House maid             Scotland
Margaret       Courteney    Serv  U  F  28  1833  Laundress              At Sea
Catherine      Clague       Serv  U  F  25  1836  Cook                   Isle of Man
Elizabeth      Cannell      Serv  U  F  24  1837  Young ladys maid       Isle of Man
Ellin          Cannell      Serv  U  F  21  1840  Kitchen maid           Isle of Man

Ref
Archive reference  RG09
Piece number       4431
Folio              6
Page               5
Combined:          1861, ref RG09, piece 4431, folio 6, p. 5
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In 1871 he was in Bishop’s Court, Isle of Man and gave his name as ‘Horace Sodor & Man’; none of their children were with them so I am not listing the household.
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Apparently he rebuild the Chapel there with a ‘Victorian Gothic Chapel of St Nicholas’.
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Note that while all the children were baptised in Warrington, Percy Maria was reported in this and other censuses to have been actually born in Wimpledon.
Will notes for Rt Rev Horatio Powys Bishop of Sodor and Man
His probate indices:

1877
The Honourable and Right Reverend POWYS Horatio Lord Bishop pf SODOR and MAN  D.D.
597
Effects under £600
Resworn October 1877 under £9,000
Double Probate at the Principal Registry November 1877.

  19 July.   The Will of the Honourable and Right Reverend Horatio Powys Lord Bishop of Sodor and Man late of Bournemouth in the County of Southampton D.D. who died 31 May 1877 at Bournemouth was proved at the Principal Registry by the Reverend William Percy Powys of Achurch Rectory near Oundsle in the County of Northampton Clerk the Son one of the Executors.

and

The Honourable and Right Reverend POWYS Horatio Lord Bishop pf SODOR and MAN  D.D.
Effects under £9,000

  5 November    The Will of the Honourable and Right Reverend Horatio Powys Lord Bishop of Sodor and Man late of Bournemouth in the County of Southampton D.D. who died 31 May 1877 at Bournemouth was proved at the Principal Registry by Percy Gore Powys of Bewsey House Bournemouth Widow the Relict and one other of the Executors.  Former Grant Principal Registry July 1877.

Probate and will ordered.

Part of the problem here may have been that Horatio did not complete the Administration of his daughter Mary Georgiana POWYS who had died in 1876.  So Percy, as the surviving next-of-kin would have had to pick that up and so found it necessary to become an active executor for her husband as well.  See Mary Georgina’s Will Notes.
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DNB Main notes for Rt Rev Horatio Powys Bishop of Sodor and Man
Powys, Horatio 1805-1877

Name
: Powys, Horatio
Dates
: 1805-1877
Active Date: 1845
Gender: Male

Field of Interest: Religion and Occultism
Occupation: Bishop of Sodor and Man
Place of
    Education
: Harrow,   St. John's College, Cambridge
    Death: Bewsey House, Bournemouth
    Burial: Warrington
Spouse: Percy Gore, eldest daughter of William Currie
Sources: Men of the Time, 1875, p. 820; Guardian, 6 June 1877, p...
Contributor: G. C. B. [George Clement Boase]

Article
Powys, Horatio 1805-1877, bishop of Sodor and Man, born on 20 Nov. 1805, was third son of Thomas Powys, second baron Lilford (1775-1825), by Henrietta Maria, eldest daughter of Robert Vernon Atherton of Atherton Hall, Lancashire. He was educated at Harrow and at St. John's College, Cambridge, where he graduated M.A. in 1826, and was created D.D. in 1854. His father presented him to the family living of Warrington, Lancashire, in 1831, and he was for some time rural dean of Cheshire. Strongly impressed with the necessity for improved education, he succeeded in establishing the training college at Chester and the institution for the education of the daughters of the clergy at Warrington, both of which proved permanently successful. On 5 July 1854 he was nominated to the bishopric of Sodor and Man. He made successful endeavours to uphold the rights of the see, and involved himself in much litigation. He printed two charges, ‘A Pastoral Letter to the Congregation at Warrington,’ 1848, and two sermons. He died at Bewsey House, Bournemouth, on 31 May 1877, and was buried at Warrington on 5 June. He married, on 21 Feb. 1833, Percy Gore, eldest daughter of William Currie of East Horsley Park, Surrey, and had issue: Horace (d. 1857); Percy William, rector of Thorpe-Achurch, Northamptonshire; Henry Lyttleton, lieutenant-colonel of the Oxfordshire light infantry; and five daughters.

Sources
Men of the Time, 1875, p. 820; Guardian, 6 June 1877, p. 772; Manx Sun, 2 and 9 June 1877.

Contributor: G. C. B.

published  1896
Notes for Horatio & Percy Gore (Family)
Their marriage register image, thanks FamilySearch, transcript by me:

“                               Page 282
“MARRIAGES solemnized in the Parish of Brighthelmston
“  in the County of Sussex  in the Year 1833
. . . .
“Horatio Powys of the Parish of Warrington Lancashire Bachelor
“and Percy Gore Currie of this Parish
“ Spinster
“were married in this Church by Licence with Consent of
“Parties  this Twenty first Day of
“February in the Year One thousand eight hundred and thirty three
“        By me  George George Millett  Officg. Minister
“This Marriage was solmnized between us,  Horatio Powys,  Percy Gore Currie
“In the Presence of  Henry Currie,  Atherton legh Powys,  Lilford
“No. 845
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