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Birth20 May 1672, Westminster, London
Baptism21 May 1672
Death5 Dec 1757, Brompton, Mx
General2nd s. but 1st surv. Diplomat, civil servant, etc. Kt on 23 Dec 1700.
EducationTrinity, Oxon: 1689. Lincoln’s Inn: 1690.
FatherSir Philip Meadowe (1625-<1718)
MotherConstance Lucy (ca1631-)
Spouses
Marriageca 1697 [71, His own article]
ChildrenMary (1699-)
 Constance (1700-)
 Sidney (ca1701-)
 Elizabeth (ca1702-)
 Anne (1703-)
 Elizabeth (ca1704-)
 Edward (1706-1736)
 Philip (1707-1781)
 Frances (1708-)
 John (1710-)
 Lucie (1711-)
Notes for Sir Philip Meadows
From the History of Parliament 1690-1715

Meadowes, Philip, 1672-1757, of St Martin-in-the-Fields, Mdx

Constituency   Dates

TREGONY        1698 - 24 June 1700
TRURO          26 Nov. 1702 - 1705
TREGONY        1705 - 1708

bap. 21 May 1672, 2nd but 1st surv. s. of Sir Philip Meadowes of Chattisham, Suff. by Constance, da. and coh. of Francis Lucy of Westminster. educ. matric. Trinity, Oxf. 1689; L. Inn 1690. m. by 1697, Dorothy, da. of Edward Boscawen† of Wortherall and Roscarrock, Cornw. and sis. of Hugh Boscawen II*, 3s. 5da. Kntd. 23 Dec. 1700; suc. fa. 1718.1
Commr. excise 1698–1702; knight marshal 1700–d.; envoy extraordinary to Emperor 1706–9; jt. comptroller of army accts. 1708–aft.1719.2

Commr. Chelsea hosp.3

Meadowes’ father, an experienced official and diplomat whose career dated back to the 1650s, was one of the members of the council of trade appointed in 1696, a place he held into the reign of George I. Meadowes’ marriage into the Boscawen family no doubt explains his unsuccessful attempt to enter the Commons at the St. Mawes by-election in November 1696. In the summer of 1698 he was appointed an excise commissioner, a post carrying a salary of £800 p.a., and he was successful at the Tregony election of the same year. A comparison, dating from September, of the old and new Commons, classed him as a Court supporter, and on 18 Jan. 1699 he voted against the third reading of the disbanding bill. On 17 Feb. his name was given to the House as one of the Members who possessed offices in the revenue, and when the following year he was forced, by the place clause of the Grants Resumption Act, to choose between his place and his seat in the Commons, he opted for the former.4

In October 1700 Meadowes was appointed knight marshal for life, a post for which he was reported to have paid its previous incumbent £5,000, and in December he was knighted at Windsor. Two years later he resigned from the excise commission in order to return to the Commons, though James Lowther* commented that following his resignation from this place Meadowes was ‘not without a prospect of another’, and he was returned at a by-election in Cornwall when his brother-in-law Sir Thomas Powys chose to sit for Tregony instead of Truro. Meadowes’ wife was the niece of Lord Treasurer Godolphin (Sidney†), and in 1703 Godolphin suggested him for the post of envoy to Holland. Meadowes hesitated whether or not to take the place, and when visiting Amsterdam ‘for two or three days’ in early 1704 he quickly took a dislike to Holland and returned home. Little is known of Meadowes’ contribution to the 1702 Parliament, but he did not vote for the Tack on 28 Nov. 1704, and early the following year was included upon a list of placemen. He transferred to Tregony at the 1705 election, and having been returned unopposed he was classed as a ‘High Church courtier’. On 25 Oct. he voted for the Court candidate as Speaker. At the end of 1706 Meadowes was appointed envoy to the Emperor, arriving at Vienna on 25 June 1707, and remaining there until August 1709. In his absence Meadowes was classed as a Whig in an analysis of the Commons dating from early 1708, and in April that year he was appointed, thanks to Godolphin’s patronage, joint comptroller of army accounts, worth £750 p.a. He did not stand at the 1708 or any subsequent election, but continued to hold minor government offices well into the Hanoverian period. Meadowes died at Brompton, Middlesex, on either 3 or 5 Dec. 1757.5

1.DNB (Meadowes, Sir Philip).
2.Cal. Treas. Bks. xiii. 393; xvii. 95; xxii. 416; CSP Dom. 1700–2, pp. 76, 143; Boyer, Anne Annals, vii. 44; HMC Laing, ii. 203–4.
3.Gent. Mag. 1757, p. 578.
4. Luttrell, Brief Relation, iv. 410, 655, 658.
5.CSP Dom. 1700–2, p. 90; Luttrell, v. 239; vi. 116, 320; Cumbria RO (Carlisle), Lonsdale mss D/Lons/W2/2/5, James to Sir John Lowther, 2nd Bt. I*, 1 Dec. 1702; Marlborough–Godolphin Corresp. 196, 210, 264, 765; DNB; Gent. Mag. 578.
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This looks like his christening record, from FamilySearch:

name: Philippus Meadow
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 May 1672
baptism/christening place: SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 20 May 1672
father's name: Philippi Meadow
mother's name: Constanciae
indexing project (batch) number: J03721-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 560370
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While hie three daughters are shown to have been baptised at St Martin, only one of his sons were and the baptism of his other two sons have yet to be found:

1. Sidney, the eldest who dsp after marrying Jemima Montagu
3. Philip, who married the Pierrpoint heir, Frances, and their son was created 1st hear of Manvers.

Evidence of their birth or parentage is being sought.  Sept, 2018: Now found.
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Arms Generally notes for Sir Philip Meadows
No meadows arms in the Visitations:

London of 1568
London of 1633, 34, 35

Middlesex of 1663

Norfolk of 1563-89-1613
Norfolk of 1664, save for a medowe family of Yarmouth that does no look related.

Suffolk of 1561
Suffolk of 1664-8
DNB Main notes for Sir Philip Meadows
Co-subject: Meadows, [Sir] Philip
Dates: d. 1757
Active Date: 1737
Gender: Male

Article
The son, Philip Meadows d. 1757, who was a commissioner of excise from 1698 to 1700, was on 2 July 1700 appointed knight-marshal of the king's household, and formally knighted by William III on 23 Dec. 1700 at Hampton Court; he succeeded Stanhope as envoy to Holland in December 1706, was in 1707 despatched on a special mission to the emperor, and during his absence appointed controller of army accounts (Cal. State Papers, Treasury, 1708-14, passim); in November 1708 he presented a memorial to the emperor in favour of the protestants of Silesia, but before his vigorous protest had time to take effect he was succeeded by Lord Raby in August 1709. He subsequently took up his abode at Richmond, and died at Brompton on 5 Dec. 1757, leaving issue by his wife Dorothy, sister of Hugh Boscawen, first viscount Falmouth, three sons and five daughters (Wentworth Papers, p. 98; Boyer, Queen Anne, 1735, pp. 338, 395). Of these the third son, Philip (1708-1781), deputy-ranger of Windsor Park, married in 1734 Frances, only daughter of William Pierrepoint, viscount Newark, a niece to Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, and was father of Charles, who succeeded to the Kingston estates on the death of the dowager-duchess in 1788, took the name of Pierrepoint, and was on 9 April 1806 created Earl Manvers; and of Sir William Medows [q.v.]
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