Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Birthca 1675
Death1715
GeneralSurgeon at St Thomas: 1710.
Spouses
Marriageca Feb 1698, Winchester cathedral [51, LDS film No 363974]
ChildrenElizabeth (ca1701-1785)
 John (ca1702-1761)
 Jane (-<1759)
Notes for John Girle
His identification was made by Stephen Marks who realised that the records of various surgeons were those of two John Girles, father and son.

He may have had a brother Henry who may be the ancestor of the Australian Girles.
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April 2003: Margot Girle has produced this marriage Allegation:

VICAR-GENERAL'S MARRIAGE ALLEGATION FOR JOHN GIRLE 1

VM1/28;  LDS film 363974

21 February 1698 [1699]

Which day appeared personally John Girle of the pish of ---
St. Edmund the King London Chirurgeon aged about Twenty ---
three years and a Batcheller, and alledged that he intends to ---
intermarry with Elizabeth Blunt of the City of Winchester ---
Spinster aged above One and twenty years, haveing no parents, ---
not knowing or believing any lawfull cause or just ---
impediment by reason of any precontract consanguinity of Affinity ---
which may hinder their said intended marriage Of the truth ---
of the premisses he made Oath, and prayed Licence for them to ---
be married in the Cathedral Church of Winchester, or

(Sgd.)  John Girle

Juratus,
   Fiat Licentia
      (Sgd.)  G. Cooke
                               Surt
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TFPL, Dec 2006: We have a family portrait that has been said to be that of John Girle and was presumed to be that of the father of Caroline the diarist.  However the portrait is dated 1717 and that John Girle was only 15 then whereas the portrait is that of a middle aged man.  On the other hand this John Girle died in 1715, but it is conceivable that the dating was inserted after his death.  Finally the Victoria and Albert Museum said to Sarah Crowley that the clothing was surely of someone in the years 1700-1725, making the re-identification even more likely.
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From Stephen Marks’ article on Caroline Powys née Girle in the Journal of the Powys Society in :

“Since my discovery in January this year of several entries for ‘John Girle’ in Eighteenth Century Medics, by P. J. & R. V. Wallis (PHIBB – Project for Historical Biobibliography, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 2nd ed., 1988, 229), I have been actively gathering material about John Girle. In fact, there were two surgeons of this name, father and son. The first, admitted to the Barber-Surgeons’ Company in 1697, served as Master Surgeon at the battle of Blenheim in 1704, and was a surgeon at St Thomas’s Hospital in London from 1710 till his death in 1715. He must have been born about 1675.”
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