Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameThomas Powys 
[36, p.9], [60, Lilford art, Vol VII, p.658], [17, 1715-1886, p. 1141]
[36, p.9], [60, Lilford art, Vol VII, p.658], [17, 1715-1886, p. 1141]Birth24 Sep 1719, Red Lyon Street, Holborne, London
Baptism19 Oct 1719, St Andrew’s, Holborn, London
Death2 Apr 1767, Lilford, Northants
Burial9 Mar 1719, Lilford church, Northants
GeneralOnly son. Heir of his gt-uncle Littleton Powys.
EducationUniv, Oxon, matric: 1736.
FatherThomas Powys (1687-1719)
MotherKatherine Ravenscroft (ca1695-1721)
Spouses
Marriage19 Nov 1740, Oxford Chapel, Vere St, London [36, p.9], [26, “1740: Powis Tho and Spence Henrietta, Marylebone (Oxford Chapel)”], [48, Allegation on 18th Nov 1740 for marriage at Oxford Chapple, St George parish, Han Sq]
Notes for Thomas Powys
Martin P-L writes:
1719 born, the only child. He inherited Sir Littleton's estate as well as Sir Thomas's.
1721-32 featured, with his uncle Ambrose and Sir Littleton (presumably trustees of his estate) in various
Chancery Proceedings: 1721, 2376/57; 1724, 1190/5; 1728, 2257/40; 1732, 25519/-
1734 Thurs 23 May, my nephew Tom Powys had the misfortune to kill a child in driving over it, he being in an Hackney Coach box. (PHILIP's memo. book)
1740 at Oxford Chapel, Vere St., London, married Henrietta, only dau. and heiress of Thos. Spence of Palgrave, Norfolk, Sgt. at Arms to House of Commons. (In the 1850s the Spencer family resided in South Malling, nr. Lewes.)
They had two sons and two daughters, incl. the first Baron Lilford.
He and his uncle, Ambrose, were godfathers to Dean Powys.
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TFPL, April 2013: from the Bank of England will extracts records:
Memorandum that Thomas Powys of Lilford in the County of Northampton Esq is possesed of Eight Thousand Pounds 4 per cent Annuities 1746. And Whereas by an inquisition taken at the house of John Inskip situate in little Chelsea in the County of Middlesex and known by the Sign of the Kings Arms, the Thirtieth Day of June in the Twenty Third year of the Reign of his Majesty King George the Second of Great Britain A D 1749 the said Thomas Powys Esq was found to be a Lunatic a Commission under the Great Seal of Great britain dated the fifth Day of August following was passed thereupon Granting the Custody of his Person and also the Care of his Estate unto Henrietta Powys (the Wife of the said Thomas Powys the Lunatic) during Pleasure
By Virtue whereof the Dividend only are receivable by the said Henrietta Powys the Committee. But not the Disposal of the Stock.
No 240
Registerd 10th August 1749
S[?] Jacobson[?}
And on the left margin of this Memorandum is this further memorandum:
Memorandum That the said Commission of Lunacy is superseded and made void under the Great Seal of Great Britain dated the 16th November in the Twenty third Year of the Reign of his Majesty King George the Second -- Registered 24 of Nov 1749 S Jacobson.
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His baptism transcription:
Name Thomas Powys
Gender Male
Christening Date 19 Oct 1719
Christening Place ST ANDREW,HOLBORN,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name Thomas Powys
Mother's Name Catherine
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The Baptism Register states:
“Christnings in October 1719 in St Andrews Holborne
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Thomas Son of Thomas Powys Esqr: & Catherine his wife in Red Lyon Street Born Sept ye 24th Bapt ye 19”
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TFPL, Jan 2021: I wonder if the lunacy declaration above was in any was the consequence of his being totally orphaned by the age of 2. Who would have looked after him after that? Who would have taken responsibility for his overall care? Possibly his father’s will of c.1719 would have dealt with that issue, though at that time his wife, the mother of this Thomas was still alive. Did she write a will?
After the death of both his grandfather and both his parents in short order, the following adult relations were around:
1. His great-uncle Sir Littleton Powys, albeit 73 when this Thomas was orphaned.
2, No aunts or uncles on his father’s side.
3. No uncle on his mother’s side but there was, presumably an aunt as Catherine was said to be a co-heir.
4. Elisabeth Powys, née Meadowe, second wife of Sir Thomas lived only to 1728.
5. His two great aunts Jane and Anne lived to 1782 and 1747 respectively.
6. His great uncle Anbrose lived to 1753.
All very remote in age to his childhood. I’m not surprised he went mad at some stage.
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See his Monumental Inscription for his death and probable burial.
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1719 born, the only child. He inherited Sir Littleton's estate as well as Sir Thomas's.
1721-32 featured, with his uncle Ambrose and Sir Littleton (presumably trustees of his estate) in various
Chancery Proceedings: 1721, 2376/57; 1724, 1190/5; 1728, 2257/40; 1732, 25519/-
1734 Thurs 23 May, my nephew Tom Powys had the misfortune to kill a child in driving over it, he being in an Hackney Coach box. (PHILIP's memo. book)
1740 at Oxford Chapel, Vere St., London, married Henrietta, only dau. and heiress of Thos. Spence of Palgrave, Norfolk, Sgt. at Arms to House of Commons. (In the 1850s the Spencer family resided in South Malling, nr. Lewes.)
They had two sons and two daughters, incl. the first Baron Lilford.
He and his uncle, Ambrose, were godfathers to Dean Powys.
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TFPL, April 2013: from the Bank of England will extracts records:
Memorandum that Thomas Powys of Lilford in the County of Northampton Esq is possesed of Eight Thousand Pounds 4 per cent Annuities 1746. And Whereas by an inquisition taken at the house of John Inskip situate in little Chelsea in the County of Middlesex and known by the Sign of the Kings Arms, the Thirtieth Day of June in the Twenty Third year of the Reign of his Majesty King George the Second of Great Britain A D 1749 the said Thomas Powys Esq was found to be a Lunatic a Commission under the Great Seal of Great britain dated the fifth Day of August following was passed thereupon Granting the Custody of his Person and also the Care of his Estate unto Henrietta Powys (the Wife of the said Thomas Powys the Lunatic) during Pleasure
By Virtue whereof the Dividend only are receivable by the said Henrietta Powys the Committee. But not the Disposal of the Stock.
No 240
Registerd 10th August 1749
S[?] Jacobson[?}
And on the left margin of this Memorandum is this further memorandum:
Memorandum That the said Commission of Lunacy is superseded and made void under the Great Seal of Great Britain dated the 16th November in the Twenty third Year of the Reign of his Majesty King George the Second -- Registered 24 of Nov 1749 S Jacobson.
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His baptism transcription:
Name Thomas Powys
Gender Male
Christening Date 19 Oct 1719
Christening Place ST ANDREW,HOLBORN,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name Thomas Powys
Mother's Name Catherine
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The Baptism Register states:
“Christnings in October 1719 in St Andrews Holborne
…
Thomas Son of Thomas Powys Esqr: & Catherine his wife in Red Lyon Street Born Sept ye 24th Bapt ye 19”
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TFPL, Jan 2021: I wonder if the lunacy declaration above was in any was the consequence of his being totally orphaned by the age of 2. Who would have looked after him after that? Who would have taken responsibility for his overall care? Possibly his father’s will of c.1719 would have dealt with that issue, though at that time his wife, the mother of this Thomas was still alive. Did she write a will?
After the death of both his grandfather and both his parents in short order, the following adult relations were around:
1. His great-uncle Sir Littleton Powys, albeit 73 when this Thomas was orphaned.
2, No aunts or uncles on his father’s side.
3. No uncle on his mother’s side but there was, presumably an aunt as Catherine was said to be a co-heir.
4. Elisabeth Powys, née Meadowe, second wife of Sir Thomas lived only to 1728.
5. His two great aunts Jane and Anne lived to 1782 and 1747 respectively.
6. His great uncle Anbrose lived to 1753.
All very remote in age to his childhood. I’m not surprised he went mad at some stage.
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See his Monumental Inscription for his death and probable burial.
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Will notes for Thomas Powys
Will of Thomas Powys of Lilford, Northamptonshire 15 April 1767 PROB 11/928
Mon Inscripts notes for Thomas Powys
From the Northants FHS booklet of Mon Inscriptions for St John the Baptist, Thorpe Achurch, pub 2015:
On a black marble ledger stone bearing arms:
“THOMAS POWYS Esqr. son of THOMAS POWYS Esqr. and grandson of Sr THOMAS POWYS Knt., born Sept 24th 1719, died April 2d. 1767.”
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On a black marble ledger stone bearing arms:
“THOMAS POWYS Esqr. son of THOMAS POWYS Esqr. and grandson of Sr THOMAS POWYS Knt., born Sept 24th 1719, died April 2d. 1767.”
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Notes for Thomas & Henrietta (Family)
On his Marriage allegation for a Licnec my transcript is:
“ 18th November 1740
Appeared personally Thomas Powys of Lilford in the County of Northampton Esquire aged one and twenty years and upwards and a Bachellor and alledged that he intendeth to marry with Henriatta Spencer of the Parish of St James with the Liberty of Westminster aged upwards of one and twenty years and a Spinster
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And that he knoweth of no lawful Let or Impediment by reason of any pr’contract Consanguinity, Affinity, or any other lawfull means whatsoever to hinder the said intended marriage of the truth of which he made Oath and prayed Licence to Solemnize tthe said marriage in the Chapple commonly called Oxford Chapple in .or near the parish of St George Hanover Square in the County of Middx.
[ signed ] Thomas Powys
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Sworn before me
Rob Chapman Surrogate.
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From FamilySearch:
Name Thomas Powys
Spouse's Name Henietta Spence
Event Date 19 Nov 1740
Event Place Oxford Chapel, Vere Street,London,London,England
Our records said he was married on 18th but in view of the above, I have altered this record to 19th.
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“ 18th November 1740
Appeared personally Thomas Powys of Lilford in the County of Northampton Esquire aged one and twenty years and upwards and a Bachellor and alledged that he intendeth to marry with Henriatta Spencer of the Parish of St James with the Liberty of Westminster aged upwards of one and twenty years and a Spinster
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And that he knoweth of no lawful Let or Impediment by reason of any pr’contract Consanguinity, Affinity, or any other lawfull means whatsoever to hinder the said intended marriage of the truth of which he made Oath and prayed Licence to Solemnize tthe said marriage in the Chapple commonly called Oxford Chapple in .or near the parish of St George Hanover Square in the County of Middx.
[ signed ] Thomas Powys
@@@
Sworn before me
Rob Chapman Surrogate.
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From FamilySearch:
Name Thomas Powys
Spouse's Name Henietta Spence
Event Date 19 Nov 1740
Event Place Oxford Chapel, Vere Street,London,London,England
Our records said he was married on 18th but in view of the above, I have altered this record to 19th.
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