Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameDruce Hervey Buckland 
[5, Their marriage cert no 28, St Marylebone reg off, Westminster, London], [16, NSW Birth Index, reg No 36203], [16, NSW Death certificate, Hornsby District, No 1963/034324]
[5, Their marriage cert no 28, St Marylebone reg off, Westminster, London], [16, NSW Birth Index, reg No 36203], [16, NSW Death certificate, Hornsby District, No 1963/034324]Birth20 Aug 1896, Undercliffe, New South Head Road, Double Bay,Woollahra, NSW, Australia
Death21 Oct 1963, Hornsby Hospital, Hornsby, NSW, Australia
Burial28 Oct 1963, Northern Suburbs Crematorium, NSW, Australia
GeneralMining engineer. Of Illaboo, Warrimoo, NSW, Australia.
EducationEton. Cambridge.
FatherThomas Buckland (-<1946)
MotherAda Lucy Greer
Spouses
1Ursula Margot Powys-Lybbe [5, Their marriage cert no 28, St Marylebone reg off, Westminster, London], [1, Of my relations, having met her a few times], [5, Death certificate, Uckfield, East Sussex, 1997, No 89], [5, Birth certificate for Bradfield, of 1911, No 377], [3, Her birth, Q1 of 1911, Bradfield dist, vol 2c, p. 325]
[5, Their marriage cert no 28, St Marylebone reg off, Westminster, London], [1, Of my relations, having met her a few times], [5, Death certificate, Uckfield, East Sussex, 1997, No 89], [5, Birth certificate for Bradfield, of 1911, No 377], [3, Her birth, Q1 of 1911, Bradfield dist, vol 2c, p. 325]FatherReginald Cecil Lybbe Powys-Lybbe (born POWYS) (1881-1930)
MotherLilian Frances Gillett Trotter (1887-1951)
Marriage16 Aug 1946, St Marylebone register office, London [5, Their marriage cert no 28, St Marylebone reg off, Westminster, London]
No Children
Notes for Druce Hervey Buckland
On his birth certificate are:
Birth: August 20th 1886, Undercliff, New South Head Road, Double Bay, [Woollahra, NSW, Australia]
Name: Druce Hervey
Sex: Male
Father: Thomas Buckland, Clerk, 40 years old, born in Sydney, N. S. Wales.
Marriage and previous issue: December 12th 1888, St John's Church, Glebe Point, Sydney, N. S. Wales. Thomas A, 4 years, living. 1 girl, dead.
Mother: Ada Lucy Greer, aged 32, born in Sydney, N. S. Wales.
Certified by: Thos Buckland, jr, address as above.
Witnesses: Dr Brady, Dr Worrad, Miss E Davis.
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Here's some super research done by Greg Hay in April 2003, which should be followed up in due course when some certificates arrive.
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This could be more on your line of inquiry, some of which you should be able
to verify with the ordered certificate/s, perhaps? -
Source: NSW Pioneer Index CD 1788-1888
Birth
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: Ada L
Index Year: 1864
Father: James
Mother: Sophia
Place of Reg: Sydney
Reg Year: 1864
Reg Number: 445
Siblings:
This one no doubt taken from a parish record:
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: Alice S W
Index Year: 1850
Father: James
Mother: Sophia
Denomination: Church of England
Parish: Sydney, St James'
Volume Reference: V1850644 35
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Number: 0
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: James W S
Index Year: 1858
Father: James
Mother: Sophia
Place of reg: Sydney
Reg Year: 1858
Reg number: 96
Not sure of the following marriage - as you can see the birth index in NSW
does not show the mother's maiden name. In Queensland and most other States
it does, but does give the registration district whereas in Queensland it
does not.
This is the only James GREER married to a Sophia in NSW and about the time
of the first birth in 1850:
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: James
Sex: Male
Index Year: 1849
Spouse surname: HENRY
Spouse Given name/s: Sophia
Spouse sex: Female
Denomination: Wesleyan Methodist
Parish: Co. Argyle; Goulurn; Gunning; Yass
Volume Reference: V1849173 84
Registration Year: 1849
Registration Number: 0
Possible birth for Ada L GREER's husband Thomas BUCKLAND...same church,
location for birth of Ada's sister, Alice...But it can be so difficult with
the NSW indexes, so without certificates or other supporting information one
cannot be certain.
Source: NSW Pioneer Index CD 1788-1888
Birth
Surname: BUCKLAND
Given name/s: Thomas
Index Year: 1856
Father: Thomas
Mother: Marion
Denomination: Church of England
Parish: Sydney, St James'
Volume Reference: V1856209 149
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Number: 0
...he COULD??? have died as follows:
Source: NSW Federation Index 1889-1918
Death
Surname: BUCKLAND
Given name/s: Thomas
Index Year: 1896
Father: Thomas
Mother: UNKNOWN
Place of Reg: Sydney
Reg Year: 1896
Reg Number: 8952
I'll send this off now, but the usual caution applies in respect to the
weight value of the information with other supporting evidence.
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Jul 2006, TFPL: I’ve now got hold of his death certificate which gives a welcome and extensive amount of information. It states where he died and what his usual residence was (see elsewhere), his parents names, his wife’s name, that he had no issue, the informant, who was his sister Marion E Buckland of The Mill Cottage, Swinbrook, Oxfordshire, England, the cause of death which was “Cerebro Vascular Accident”, lasting 12 hours, and the date and place of cremation.
This completes the trio of birth, marriage and death certificates.
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On 16th April 2009, John Hamblin produced this from his researches into people from the one school:
Buckland, Druce Hervey Lieutenant
6th (Reserve) Battalion King's Royal Rifle Corps attached to the 1st Battalion
He was born on the 20th of August 1896 at "Undercliff", New South Head Road, Double Bay, Woollahra, New South Wales in Australia the younger son of Thomas Buckland of Kengie, Ascot, Berkshire and Ada Lucy Buckland of Sydney Australia.
He left Hazelwood School at Christmas 1909 for Eton College where he was in A.E. Conybeare's house leaving in 1914 and matriculating for Trinity College Cambridge, although he chose to defer his place due to the outbreak of war.
He was gazetted as a 2nd Lieutenant in the King's Royal Rifle Corps on the 30th of December 1914, was attached to the 1st Battalion and went to France on the 16th of October 1915. He joined his battalion at the front on the 19th of October and was invalided back the UK through illness on the 30th of August 1916 following a period in flooded trenches at Hebuterne; he was mentioned in despatches
After the war he took his place at Trinity College and played varsity tennis at Queen's Club in 1920.
He returned to Australia where he worked as a mining engineer
He was married at St Marylebone Registry Office in London on the 16th of August 1946 to Ursula Margot (nee Powys-Lybbe). They lived at Illaboo, Warrimo in New South Wales and had no children.
He died at Hornsby Hospital, Hornsby in New South Wales on the 21st of October 1963
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The interesting thing in the above is that Druce’s father Thomas Buckland said he was a clerk and born in Sydney when his and Ada’s marriage was registered. Wierd!
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In the 1911 census, there was no Druce Buckland or variants of that name who was born around 1896.
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Four ship entries for him:
22 Mar 1944: British embarkation from Liverpool on Trojan Star. He was resident at 47 Berkeley Sq, London W1 and was a Naval Liaison Officer with the profession of Mining Engineer. He was aged 48 and going to Sydney, Australia for permanent residence.
23 Mar 1944: Departed for USA, arriving 10th April 1944, on the SS Trojan Star from Liverpool. He said he was an Engineer aged 47 and 8 months, born in Sydney, NSW, Australia, of British nationality and Australian race and was previously living in London.
26 Aug 1945 (prob) he arrived in Southampton from Sydney, Australia. He said he was permanently resident in England with an address in London (illegible).
21 Sep 1946: Departed Southampton for Sydney, Australie on the ship Strathmore. He was aged 50 and had been living at 27 Mulberry Close, Beaufort St, London SW3 and gave his profession as engineer. He was in Class A and was unaccompanied by a wife. He said he was last permanently resident in England.
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The London Gazette has:
30 Dec 1914: 2 Lt in 6th Battalion K.R.R. Corps.
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In the 1901 census he and his probable brother Adrian were living at a boarding house in Margate Kent. No sign of any parents. Both born in Australia.
In the 1911 census he and his brother Adrian were both at Eton and both born in Sydney, Australia.
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Birth: August 20th 1886, Undercliff, New South Head Road, Double Bay, [Woollahra, NSW, Australia]
Name: Druce Hervey
Sex: Male
Father: Thomas Buckland, Clerk, 40 years old, born in Sydney, N. S. Wales.
Marriage and previous issue: December 12th 1888, St John's Church, Glebe Point, Sydney, N. S. Wales. Thomas A, 4 years, living. 1 girl, dead.
Mother: Ada Lucy Greer, aged 32, born in Sydney, N. S. Wales.
Certified by: Thos Buckland, jr, address as above.
Witnesses: Dr Brady, Dr Worrad, Miss E Davis.
______________________________________________________
Here's some super research done by Greg Hay in April 2003, which should be followed up in due course when some certificates arrive.
______________________________________________________
This could be more on your line of inquiry, some of which you should be able
to verify with the ordered certificate/s, perhaps? -
Source: NSW Pioneer Index CD 1788-1888
Birth
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: Ada L
Index Year: 1864
Father: James
Mother: Sophia
Place of Reg: Sydney
Reg Year: 1864
Reg Number: 445
Siblings:
This one no doubt taken from a parish record:
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: Alice S W
Index Year: 1850
Father: James
Mother: Sophia
Denomination: Church of England
Parish: Sydney, St James'
Volume Reference: V1850644 35
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Number: 0
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: James W S
Index Year: 1858
Father: James
Mother: Sophia
Place of reg: Sydney
Reg Year: 1858
Reg number: 96
Not sure of the following marriage - as you can see the birth index in NSW
does not show the mother's maiden name. In Queensland and most other States
it does, but does give the registration district whereas in Queensland it
does not.
This is the only James GREER married to a Sophia in NSW and about the time
of the first birth in 1850:
Surname: GREER
Given Name/s: James
Sex: Male
Index Year: 1849
Spouse surname: HENRY
Spouse Given name/s: Sophia
Spouse sex: Female
Denomination: Wesleyan Methodist
Parish: Co. Argyle; Goulurn; Gunning; Yass
Volume Reference: V1849173 84
Registration Year: 1849
Registration Number: 0
Possible birth for Ada L GREER's husband Thomas BUCKLAND...same church,
location for birth of Ada's sister, Alice...But it can be so difficult with
the NSW indexes, so without certificates or other supporting information one
cannot be certain.
Source: NSW Pioneer Index CD 1788-1888
Birth
Surname: BUCKLAND
Given name/s: Thomas
Index Year: 1856
Father: Thomas
Mother: Marion
Denomination: Church of England
Parish: Sydney, St James'
Volume Reference: V1856209 149
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Number: 0
...he COULD??? have died as follows:
Source: NSW Federation Index 1889-1918
Death
Surname: BUCKLAND
Given name/s: Thomas
Index Year: 1896
Father: Thomas
Mother: UNKNOWN
Place of Reg: Sydney
Reg Year: 1896
Reg Number: 8952
I'll send this off now, but the usual caution applies in respect to the
weight value of the information with other supporting evidence.
______________________________________________________
Jul 2006, TFPL: I’ve now got hold of his death certificate which gives a welcome and extensive amount of information. It states where he died and what his usual residence was (see elsewhere), his parents names, his wife’s name, that he had no issue, the informant, who was his sister Marion E Buckland of The Mill Cottage, Swinbrook, Oxfordshire, England, the cause of death which was “Cerebro Vascular Accident”, lasting 12 hours, and the date and place of cremation.
This completes the trio of birth, marriage and death certificates.
______________________________________________________
On 16th April 2009, John Hamblin produced this from his researches into people from the one school:
Buckland, Druce Hervey Lieutenant
6th (Reserve) Battalion King's Royal Rifle Corps attached to the 1st Battalion
He was born on the 20th of August 1896 at "Undercliff", New South Head Road, Double Bay, Woollahra, New South Wales in Australia the younger son of Thomas Buckland of Kengie, Ascot, Berkshire and Ada Lucy Buckland of Sydney Australia.
He left Hazelwood School at Christmas 1909 for Eton College where he was in A.E. Conybeare's house leaving in 1914 and matriculating for Trinity College Cambridge, although he chose to defer his place due to the outbreak of war.
He was gazetted as a 2nd Lieutenant in the King's Royal Rifle Corps on the 30th of December 1914, was attached to the 1st Battalion and went to France on the 16th of October 1915. He joined his battalion at the front on the 19th of October and was invalided back the UK through illness on the 30th of August 1916 following a period in flooded trenches at Hebuterne; he was mentioned in despatches
After the war he took his place at Trinity College and played varsity tennis at Queen's Club in 1920.
He returned to Australia where he worked as a mining engineer
He was married at St Marylebone Registry Office in London on the 16th of August 1946 to Ursula Margot (nee Powys-Lybbe). They lived at Illaboo, Warrimo in New South Wales and had no children.
He died at Hornsby Hospital, Hornsby in New South Wales on the 21st of October 1963
_______________________________
The interesting thing in the above is that Druce’s father Thomas Buckland said he was a clerk and born in Sydney when his and Ada’s marriage was registered. Wierd!
______________________________________________
In the 1911 census, there was no Druce Buckland or variants of that name who was born around 1896.
______________________________________________
Four ship entries for him:
22 Mar 1944: British embarkation from Liverpool on Trojan Star. He was resident at 47 Berkeley Sq, London W1 and was a Naval Liaison Officer with the profession of Mining Engineer. He was aged 48 and going to Sydney, Australia for permanent residence.
23 Mar 1944: Departed for USA, arriving 10th April 1944, on the SS Trojan Star from Liverpool. He said he was an Engineer aged 47 and 8 months, born in Sydney, NSW, Australia, of British nationality and Australian race and was previously living in London.
26 Aug 1945 (prob) he arrived in Southampton from Sydney, Australia. He said he was permanently resident in England with an address in London (illegible).
21 Sep 1946: Departed Southampton for Sydney, Australie on the ship Strathmore. He was aged 50 and had been living at 27 Mulberry Close, Beaufort St, London SW3 and gave his profession as engineer. He was in Class A and was unaccompanied by a wife. He said he was last permanently resident in England.
__________________
The London Gazette has:
30 Dec 1914: 2 Lt in 6th Battalion K.R.R. Corps.
___________________
In the 1901 census he and his probable brother Adrian were living at a boarding house in Margate Kent. No sign of any parents. Both born in Australia.
In the 1911 census he and his brother Adrian were both at Eton and both born in Sydney, Australia.
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Notes for Druce Hervey & Ursula Margot (Family)
On their marriage certificate, No 26 of St Marylebone, Westminster, London,
dated sixteenth of August 1946,
He was Druce Henry Buckland, aged 49, bachelor, a mining engineer of 18 Lancaster gate, London W2, with father Thomas Buckland deceased, a general merchant,
She was Ursula Margot Powys-Lybbe, aged 35 years, spinster, a photographer and journalist, of 61 Baker Street, London W1, father Reginald Cecil Powys-Lybbe deceased, of independent means.
They were married in the Registry Office by licence with Frank Bethell as the Registrar and P. H. Seymour as the Deputy Supr Registrar.
He signed "Druce H Buckland", she "Ursula Powys-Lybbe".
The witnesses were Lilian Powys-Lybbe and L.A. Blackett.
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The FreeBMD entry from the indices is:
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1946 (>99%)
Buckland Druce H Powys-Lybbe Marylebone 5d 838
Lybbe Ursula M P Buckland Marylebone 5d 838
Powys-Lybbe Ursula M Buckland Marylebone 5d 838
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dated sixteenth of August 1946,
He was Druce Henry Buckland, aged 49, bachelor, a mining engineer of 18 Lancaster gate, London W2, with father Thomas Buckland deceased, a general merchant,
She was Ursula Margot Powys-Lybbe, aged 35 years, spinster, a photographer and journalist, of 61 Baker Street, London W1, father Reginald Cecil Powys-Lybbe deceased, of independent means.
They were married in the Registry Office by licence with Frank Bethell as the Registrar and P. H. Seymour as the Deputy Supr Registrar.
He signed "Druce H Buckland", she "Ursula Powys-Lybbe".
The witnesses were Lilian Powys-Lybbe and L.A. Blackett.
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The FreeBMD entry from the indices is:
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1946 (>99%)
Buckland Druce H Powys-Lybbe Marylebone 5d 838
Lybbe Ursula M P Buckland Marylebone 5d 838
Powys-Lybbe Ursula M Buckland Marylebone 5d 838
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