These pedigrees can easily be classified by number of lines between
the Enforcers and my siblings and I:
Click on any name to see their full pedigrees,
Be warned that the pedigrees at the top are large and will
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| Lines of Descent from Magna Carta Enforcers |
| Name |
Dates |
No of lines of descent |
| Quency, Saher (IV) de |
1155-1219 |
228 |
| Bigod, Hugh |
d.1224 |
203 |
| Clare, Gilbert de |
c.1180-1230 |
147 |
| Lacy, John de |
c.1192-1240 |
94 |
| Bohun, Hy de |
1176-1220 |
77 |
| Vere, Robt de |
aft.1164-bef.1221 |
50 |
| Ros, Robert de |
c.1170-1226 |
26 |
| FitzRobert, John |
d.1241 |
23 |
| Malet, Wm |
c.1180-c.1215 |
19 |
| Albini, Wm (III) d’ |
aft.1146-1232 |
16 |
| Mowbray, Wm de |
d.1224 |
15 |
| FitzWalter, Robert (II) |
d.1235 |
7 |
| Say, Geoff (II) de |
c.1180-bef.1230 |
6 |
| Huntingželd, Wm |
d.1220 |
3 |
| Lanvalay, Wm (III) de |
d.1217 |
2 |
Fairly obviously those with a large number of lines of descent
are likely to be rather solid and those with only a few lines
will be questionable and a bit weak. I will examine only
the last four, those with single digit numbers of lines. Note that
within these I will only consider the line that I think is the best.
The full details of the references are to be found on my site for
each person in the lines.
The generation numbering starts with the Enforcer, the son if both
father and son were Enforcers.
- Lanvaley line: The documentation for the generations is:
- 1 to 5: Sanders' English Baronies
- 3 to 9: Complete Peerage
- 10 to 11: Faris' Plantagenet Ancestry and Sussex Visitation
- 11 to 13: Complete Peerage
- 14: Kent, Berks and London Visitations
- 15: DNB, Berks, Cornwall and Hants Visitations, GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 16: Visitations of Berks and Hants, GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 17 to 18: Hants Visitation, GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 19: GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 20: Burke's Peerage of 1885
- 21: GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 22 to 28: Wills, Parish Regs, BMD Certs, Censuses
Assessment: Mostly good, the weak spot is in generations 10 and 11.
- Huntingfield line: The documentation for the generations is:
- 1 to 9: Complete Peerage
- 10: Cambridge Visitation, The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz
- 11 to 12: Complete Peerage, The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Yorks & Notts vis'ns
- 13: The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Glos & Essex vis'ns, Smyth's Berkeleys
- 14: Smyth's Berkeleys, DNB, Glos & Essex vis'ns
- 15: Complete Peerage, Smyth's Berkeleys
- 16 to 20: Family of Twysden and Twisden, GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 20 to 28: Wills, Parish Regs, BMD Certs, Censuses
Assessment: Fairly strong with no weak points.
- Say line: The documentation for the generations is:
- 1 to 8: Complete Peerage
- 9 to 12: Annual Reports of the Friends of Lydiard Tregoze, No 14; Cooke's Mapledurham
- 13 to 14: Annual Reports of the Friends of Lydiard Tregoze
- 15: Annual Reports of the Friends of Lydiard Tregoze,
- 16 to 19: GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 20: Burke's Peerage of 1885
- 21 to 22: GEC's Complete Baronetage
- 23 to 28: Wills, Parish Regs, BMD Certs, Censuses
Assessment: The Annual Reports of the Friends of Lydiard Tregoze
made this a relatively strong line as the quality of their research is
impressive.
- FitzWalter line: The documentation for the generations is:
- 1 to 8: Complete Peerage
- 9 to 14: Dugdale's Warwicks
- 15: Complete Peerage, Hants, Warks, Monmouth Vis'ns
- 16: DNB, Alumni Oxoniensis, Vis'ns of Warks
- 17: DNB
- 18: DNB
- 19: Alumni Oxoniensis
- 20 to 27: Wills, Parish Regs, BMD Certs, Censuses
Assessment: It took me the best part of 8 years to gather adequate
evidence for generations 16 to 18 which concern the later Lucys of
Charlcote. The result is acceptable but not the strongest.
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